When it comes to geeks trying to save the planet, things can get complicated. It either tends to be really heavy-handed and naïve or to demonize anything involving saving the planet.
The big conflict is often between saving the environment and the march of progress, and many stories tend to proclaim one as good while demonizing the other, which is obviously problematic.
MadameAce: So this movie is okay. I like it. I certainly like it more than other movies for DC. But I didn’t enjoy it nearly as much as I thought I would. Maybe that’s because I built it up so much in my head before watching it that it couldn’t possibly live up to my expectations. Or maybe it’s because the conflict is the exact same conflict in the previous films, only with an even drearier tone. Or it might just be the fact that I couldn’t understand Bane’s character at all. Among other things, of course. And that’s Bane, not Bain, dear Rush.
Lady Geek Girl: I was actually fairly pleased, probably because I didn’t build the movie up in my head. So it actually went beyond my expectations. Here’s the thing, if you were expecting the movie to be just as good or better than The Dark Knight then you were probably disappointed. I was so worried about being disappointed that I ended up liking it instead. That’s not to say that this movie isn’t without flaws though, because there are probably more flaws in this movie than in Batman Begins or in The Dark Knight.
There have been many issues around race and comic book movies over the years. Marvel I feel has been the most notable with casting black actors in typically white roles. Alicia in Fantastic Four was black instead of the usual blonde-haired, blue-eyed character she is in the comics. Nick Fury, now played by Samuel L. Jackson is black, and perhaps the most controversial, Idris Elba played the Norse god Heimdall in Thor.
One black person and one woman, yep, that’s not tokenism at all.
I am not always a fan of casting actors to play characters that are not the same race as the actual character, but in the case of minority actors playing typically white characters I understand. Comic books have always been very white and I understand wanting to include more minorities in these movies. Casting black actors as white characters can, however, be just as racist as not casting them at all. Almost every character who is now a minority character is usually a minor character. Alicia was barely in Fantastic Four, Heimdall, though played well by Elba, and given a bigger role in the movie, is still just a minor character. Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury is probably the best role given to a black actor as Nick Fury is actually a main character and an important one, but even then Fury usually takes a back seat to every (see all) white characters in the Avengers. In this way, these movies seem to promote tokenism more than genuine portrayals of black characters.
Where are the movies featuring minority superheroes? Why is there still no Static Shock movie? Or Mister Terrific? There are rumors of a Luke Cage movie and talk of a Runaways movie, which would have a very diverse cast, but so far these works have barely gotten off the ground.
But the real racism comes along when characters that are supposed to be black, Latin American, Asian, or Native American are white washed or portrayed by white actors.
It amazes me that everyone flipped out that Idris Elba was portraying Heimdall, but very few people have gotten up in arms over Bane being played by Tom Hardy.
Tom Hardy is British, and yes, Bane’s father is Sir Edmund Dorrance who is also British, but Bane is not just British. Bane is from the fictional Caribbean Island of Santa Prisca in a prison called Priña Dura, which means “hard rock” in Spanish. Bane is even designed to look like a Mexican wrestler. So Bane is a biracial character that grew up in Latin America, so why is he being played by a white actor, and why does everyone seem to be okay with this? Could Nolan really not find any Latin American actors to play Bane?
This isn’t the first time Nolan has whitewashed characters nor will it be the last. In Batman Begins, Liam Neeson and Ken Watanabe played Ra’s al Ghul. Ra’s al Ghul, according to the Batman comic Birth of the Demon, was born to a tribe of nomads somewhere in the deserts of Arabia. Liam Neeson is from Ireland and Ken Watanabe is from Japan… yeah, I don’t think either of those is remotely Middle Eastern either.
If the rumors are true, then in The Dark Knight Rises this will be happening again.
Yes, she looks very French. I see it now.
Marion Cotillard is a French actress who will be playing Miranda Tate in the new Batman movie, but rumor has it that Miranda Tate is actually Talia al Ghul, Ra’s al Ghul’s daughter. If this is true then once again we’ll have a Middle Eastern character being played by a European actress.
With diversity being such a problem in comic books why are we changing the ethnicities of characters that already are a different ethnicity than from white European?
Of course the movie industry is no better when it comes to diversity. Disney has recently decided that instead of coming up with an original idea for a new movie they are simply going to reboot The Lone Ranger, with Johnny Depp playing the Native American character Tonto.
Now the original Lone Ranger radio and TV show was nowhere near racially sensitive, but today I expect better. I would feel a lot better about The Lone Ranger movie if Tonto was actually played by a Native American.
Now Johnny Depp is apparently at least kind of Native American.
“I guess I have some Native American (in me) somewhere down the line. My great grandmother was quite a bit of Native American, she grew up Cherokee or maybe Creek Indian.” (via The Stranger)
Johnny Depp’s ethnicity however is mostly French American and culturally he isn’t Native
American at all, leaving some people asking if Johnny Depp’s portrayal of Tonto is no better than Al Jolson’s blackface.
Tonto is part of the Potawatomi Native American Nation, but so far the pictures of Tonto do not reflect anything remotely authentic. Instead audiences will be treated to yet another stereotypical portrayal of a Native American character played by a white actor.
